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Re: [lojban-beginners] except for



On 30.10.2017 05:50, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:46:56 AM EDT solpahi wrote:
"everything except for X" is equivalent to "everything that is not X".
The usual way to express this in Lojban is:

     mi nelci ro    finpe poi   [ke'a] na .angila
     I  like  every fish  which [it]   not eel
     "I like every fish except for eels."

When you have referents that are the exception, then {po'u nai} can be
used to save space:

     mi nelci ro finpe po'u nai ti
     "I like every fish except for this one."

({po'u nai} is short for {poi ke'a na du})

Both jbofi'e and camxes (at http://camxes.lojban.org) reject "po'unai". Is
there a newer version that accepts it?

The "beta" and "experimental" options at http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html accept it.

It is also accepted by zantufa (http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html).

Allowing NAI after any word is a well-known proposal (see https://mw.lojban.org/papri/move_NAI_to_CAI). This simplification is in common use.

~~~mi'e la solpa'i

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