cultural fu'ivla

(Don't like cultural gismu? Want to junk all of them? First you'll need to have replacements available for use.)

See another approach to cultural fu'ivla and also ISO generated cultural fu'ivla.

Geographic

glico	etym.	lojban approximation	CCV'VCV	Notes
African		afrkia	fra'ika
Afro-Eurasian
American		amrkia	mre'ika
Antarctican			dzi'ipo
Australian				sra'alo
Asian				xa'azdo
Eurasian
European		erpa	xre'opa, vre'opa
North American			bernmre'ika
South American			nanrmre'ika	by the syllable-switching trick, Quechua --> tce'uka?

Political/Ethnicity/Language (please specify)

glico	type	etym.	lojban approximation	CCV'VCV	Notes
Afghan	poli,lang
Afro-Asiatic
Arabic	ethn,lang
Albanian
Algerian		djazari
Altaic
American Samoa	Amerika Sāmoa	steito asmo'a
Andalusian
Andorran
Angolan
Anglophone	lang
Argentinian			arxentina	xre'ina
Armenian		հայերեն (hɑjɛˈɾɛn)	xa'erne
Aromanian
Aruban
Assyrian
Australian		kulnraustralia, straina	sraila
Austrian
Austronesian
Azeri	Азәрбајҹан	azrbaidjna
Bahamian
Bahraini
Balochi
Bangladeshi	বাংলা (ˈbaŋla)	bangla'e
Bantu
Barbadian
Basque	Euskadi	eskladi, skalduna		country
Basque	Euskara	eskra		language
Bavarian (German)	Bayern (ˈbaɪ.ɐn)	bai'arno
Belarusian	беларуская	blarska'a
Belgian
Belizean
Bengali	Bangla	bengali
Berber
Boer
Bosnian
Brazilian	Brasil		bra'ila
Breton			bre'one
British	poli		bri'ito
British Virgin Islands		bri'ito plurvardjino
Bulgarian
Burkinabe
Burundian
Cajun
Cambodian
Cameroonian
Canadian					cka'ada	It seems ka'anda doesn't fit the rafsi fu'ivla form.
Catalan
Cape Verdean
Chadian
Chilean			tci'ile
Chinese	ethn	中华/zhōnghuá	djonxua	djo'uxa	Why jungo makes no sense.
Chinese (PRC)	poli	中国/zhōngguó	djonguo	djo'ugo	gugrjunguo ? see above
Chinese (Han)	ethn	汉族 hànzú	xandzu	xna'azu
Chuvash		Чӑвашла (tɕəʋaʂˈla)	tcufcla
Colombian
Comorian
Conglolese
Corsican
Croatian	hrvatski (xř̩ʋaːtski)	xraftski
Cuban
Cypriot
Czech	čeština (ˈt͡ʃɛʃcɪna)	tcectsina
Dane
Dominican
Dravidian		dravida
Netherlander/Dutch	Nederland	enderla
Netherlands Antilles	Nederlandse Antillen		enderla antile
East Timorese
Ecuadorian
Egyptian			smi'iro
Emirati
English	?			gli'ico
Eritrean
Erzya	эрзянь	erzia
Esperanto	lang,cult	Esperanto	espranto	spe'ato
Estonian	eesti (ˈeːsti)	esti	ste'iti, sto'ina
Ethiopian
Evenki	Эвэнки	evneki
Finn
Finnic
Finnish			tsu'omi
Finno-Ugric
Fijian
Filipino
French			fra'ase
Georgian
German			jdoico
Germanic
Ghanaian
Gibraltar
Greek	poli,lang,ethn	kulnrxelada
Greenlandic	Kalaallisut	klalsitu
Grenadian
Guatemalan
Guianese
Guinean
Guinea-Bissau
Guyanese
Haida
Haitian
Hebrew
Hindi		indi
Hispanic			spi'ani
Honduran
Hongkonger		xonkno
Hungarian	Magyar		jma'aro
Hutus
Icelander
Igbo
Inari Sami	anarâškielâ	anraci
Indian
Indo-Aryan
Indo-European
Indonesian
Inuit
Inuktitut		inktitu
Iranian
Iraqi			xri'aki
Irish	Ireland (ˈaɾlənd), Éire (ˈeːɾʲə)	erlando
Israeli			sra'eli
Italian	Italia	iltalia
Ivoirian
Jamaican
Japanese	Nihon		sni'ono
Javanese
Jordanian	Al-Urdun	lurduno
Karen
Kazakh
Kenyan
Klingon			kli'iga
Korean
Kosovo Albanian
Kurd
Kurdish
Kuwaiti
Lao
Latin	Latīna (laˈtiːna)	kulnrlatina, la'itna, latnia
Latvian	latviešu	latfiecu
Lebanese
Liberian
Libyan
Liechtensteiner
Limbu	Yakthung	iaktu
Lithuanian	lietuvių	iltuviu
Livonian	Līvõ	ilvo
Lojbanic				jbo'anu	This one is ugly.Aside from the debate about whether "Lojbanic" should be a fu'ivla at all, there's really no good way to cram any form of logji bangu into CCVVCV. However, here's an attempt. jbo'anu rab.spir Maybe jbauboAh ha, I get it - rearranging the vowels of jbobau.
Luxembourger
Macedonian
Malawian
Malaysian			mle'eja
Malay-Indonesian
Malian
Maltese
Manchu		mantcu'u
Mandarin	lang	Pǔtōnghuà	putnxua	tno'uxa
Manx
Maori
Mauritian
Mayan
Mexican			sme'iko
Moldovan
Mongolian
Moroccan			gri'iba
Montenegrin
Namibian
Native American
Nepalese
New Zealander
Nicaraguan
Nigerian
Nigerien
Niger-Congo
Northern Sami	Davvisámegiella	dafsamegiela
Norwegian				sno'ogo	I'm Swedish so feel free to replace if you come up with something better
Ossetic	Ирон	irno
Pakistani
Palauan
Palestinian
Panamanian
Papua New Guinean
Paraguayan
Persian	Farsi		fa'arsi
Peruvian
Piedmont (Italian)	Piemonte	pienmote
Polish	polski	polski	plo'oka
Polynesian				plo'ini	forget the autonym, the gismu list manages with polno
Portuguese			pro'uge
Puerto Rican			prueto
Punjabi
Quebecer
Quechua	('χetʃ.wa)	xetcua
Reunionnai
Roma
Romanian
Russian	русский (ˈruskʲɪj)	kulnlrosia	sro'isa
Rwandan
Salvandoran
Sami
Samoyedic
Sanskrit	संस्कृता saṃskṛtā	samskrta
Sao Tome and Principe
Sardinian
Saudi
Semitic
Senegalese
Serb	Srpski (ˈsr̩pskiː)	serpski
Scot			sco'oto
Sicilian
Sierra Leonean
Silesian
Singaporean
Slavic			slo'ovo
Slovak	slovenčina	slovntcina
Slovene	slovenščina	slovnctcina
Somali
South African
Soviet			kulnrsovietskii		Seems wrong for me. softo does 'not' mean Soviet - read the full definition, not just the keyword! mi'e kir)
Spanish			spa'ano
Sri Lankan
Sudanese
Swedish			sfe'ero
Swiss
Syrian
Syriac
Tai
Taiwanese
Tamil
Tanzanian
Tatar
Thai
Tibetan
Tlapanec	Meph'aa
Tlingit	Lingít (ɬɪŋkɪ́t)	linkti
Tobagonian
Trinidadian
Tsez	цезйас		tseiza
Tungusic
Turkic
Turkish	Türkçe (ˈt̪yɾktʃe)	turktce
Tutsi
Tuvaluan
Udmurt	удмурт	udmurtu
Ugandan
Ugric
Uralic
Ukrainian	украї́нська (ukrɑˈjinʲsʲkɑ)	krainska
Urdu		urdu
Uruguayan
UK		unke, kingdo
U.S.				steito	I suggest steito for U.S. Keep in mind that Central Americans call themselves americano.) Not only Central Americans. I call myself americano as well. --mi'e xorxes
Uzbek	Ўзбекча	zbektca
Venezuelan
Vietnamese				zvi'ena	I'm not sure if {ie} sounds like "iệt", so I use y'ybu here. I prefer {zv} over {jv} in ease of pronouncing — mi'e xydyx
Warlpiri		uarlpiri
Welsh	Cymru (ˈkəmrɨ)	ekmru, uelcu	ckueru
Yemeni
Zambian
Zimbabwean
Zulu

Philosophy/Religion

glico	etym.	lojban approximation	CCV'VCV	Notes
Aristotelian	Aristoteles	arstotele
Buddhist			jbu'udo
Cartesian	Descartes	dekrto
Christian		kulnrxristiano	xraiso
Confucian	Kǒng zǐ	kongzi
Hobbesian		xo'obzu
Islamic			sla'ami
Jehovist
Kantian	Kant	aknto	kna'ati
Marxian	Marx	marksu	mra'asi
Platonistic	Platon		pla'ato
Taoist	道教/dàojiào	daudjiau	dji'ado, djo'ixo, dja'uda

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Discussion

kulnr- words are all well and good, but the idea of cultural fu'ivla as proposed in the book is to use the CCVVCV form so that corresponding CCVVC rafsi can be formed. Many lujvo already involve cultural rafsi (the 3-letter kind), so eliminating cultural rafsi altogether would be damaging to the language. --rab.spir

• In that case, Rob, Classic Wiki Conflict Resolution: I suggest kunlr- words, you suggest CCVVCV words, they both go on the Marketplace Of Ideas (and hopefully neither wins and the baseline is preserved! Mwahahah (Btw, as another meta-point: since gli'ico is glico with an extra vowel, it doesn't address the 'recognisability' objection.) — nitcion
  • I actually don't have a problem with cultural gismu - however, if they are going to become taboo, I'd at least like to have rafsi fu'ivla to fall back on. I realize that CCVVCV will be just as unrecognizable as CCVCV or CVCCV. Besides, this is the one place where the baseline bends! The book states that rafsi fu'ivla might be used, or they might not. I think we might as well play with it and see what happens.
  • and if neither wins, what do we do for, say, taiwanese culture?

Are we agreed that the place should form the basis of cultural fu'ivla in general (and where available - counterexample, Roma/Gypsies), rather than the nationality? That's what has been assumed in le tutra pe le terdi. (And please God, not more "thousand flowers".) Is it kulnlrosia, or kulnlruskii? nitcion kulnlruskii - russian culture. tutrlrosia - Russia. Or use the gismu for the source languages of lojban... PS: Love to see you come up with an autonym for Polynesian... mononesian?

• Not antonym, but autonym: self-designation

The above is a list of all the cultures that Lojban currently has gismu for, plus a couple of others. If there is another culture you'd like the word for, then by all means, add it. We have a gismu for Antarctica? Sure thing. dzipo (I understand it's from cadzu cipni, land of the walking birds (i.e. penguins) It even has two short rafsi: -zip- and -zi'o-.

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