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Robin's gadri Proposal

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xod:
> What is the difference between "patfu noda" and "patfu no selpatfu". I
> have no kids, I have zero kids, I don't have any kids, it's not true
> that I have at least one kid...

No difference as far as I can tell: there is no x such that
patfu(you, x) holds.

If someone say {mi patfu} I will never interpret it as
{mi patfu noda}.

> Then you're making the strong claim that "zero thingies" is NEVER, EVER
> implied in the context of any discussion.

My claim is that {zo'e} never stands for {noda}.

If you say {mi na patfu}, I may understand {do patfu noda},
but that's because of the {na}. Would that count as context
implying zero thingies?

(I'm not saying {mi na patfu} will always be understood that
way. For example, if someone asks {xu do patfu la djan} and
you answer {mi na patfu}, you may mean that you are not
John's father, though maybe you do have children.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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