Robin's gadri Proposal
> A: mi gasnu co favytcini lo samru'e li pa
> B: xu cnino samru'e
> A: go'i
> B: .ua do gasnu co favytcini fo no da
We've been here before:
A: ti botpi
B: botpi fo ma
A: botpi fo noda
B: oi
A botpi with no lid (or a farvi without stages) is like
a patfu with no children, a contradiction in terms.
Of course in English bottles can have no lid and developments
could have no stages. But Lojban gismu are bloated. If we take
their place structures seriously, then we have to take them
seriously. That means botpi have lids as intrinsically as patfu
have children. If we don't take the place structures seriously
(which I agree in many cases is what we ought to do) then we
are using a different place structure. When we say {ti botpi}
then we don't mean {ti botpi zo'e zo'e zo'e}, we rather mean
{ti botpi zi'o zi'o zi'o}. We are not thinking of a four-place
relationship but of a one-place predicate, which is the closest
to the English noun "bottle".
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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