Robin's gadri Proposal
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 07:35:00PM -0400, xod wrote:
> John Cowan wrote:
> >Robin Lee Powell scripsit:
> >>>Then, klama noda is not covered by the meaning of klama, making it a
> >>>different selbri.
> >>>
> >>One way to look at it, and one which I would be willing to enshrine,
> >>is that "klama no da" == "klama zi'o", which is, indeed, a different
> >>selbri.
> >
> >No, that won't work. klama noda is equivalent to klama naku su'oda,
> >which is a negative claim (it is about what is not the case), whereas
> >klama zi'o, though the x2 has been dropped, is still an affirmative
> >claim (about what is the case).
>
> If that's the case, then it's incorrect to render broda noda --> naku
> broda su'oda. Because "noda" surely should not have so dramatic effect
> on the other places. Saying that I went lacking a destination is very
> different from opening up the possibility that I didn't go at all. We
> gain nothing but confusion with such a conflation.
If one views *every* place as essential to the relationship, and I think
xorxes is right that one must do so, then there is no conflation.
-Robin