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Wiki page BPFK Section: Subordinators changed

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 05:28:58PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote:
>
> --- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > > > ;noi (NOI):Incidental clause. noi is Lojban's
> > > > non-restrictive relative clause.
> > >
> > > That should be "non-restrictive relative clause marker" or
> > > something like that. {noi} itself is not the clause.
> >
> > Fixed.
>
> Same thing for {poi} and {voi}.

Oops.

> > > > The &quot;restrictive&quot; part means that the information in
> > > > the poi clause is intended to completely identify the
> > > > referents of the sumti that poi is attached to.
> > >
> > > Rather: it selects from all the referents of the sumti just those
> > > that satisfy the relative clause. Which I see is more or less what
> > > you say next, but why "completely identify"? You may not have any
> > > of them identified.
> >
> > How about:
> >
> > The "restrictive" part means that the information in the poi
> > clause is not used to restrict the set of things that the sumti
> > poi is attached to refers to.
>
> You mean "is used" right?

Err. Yeah.

> > It's from Alice; what did you mean for it to mean?
>
> Probably just what you interpreted. I don't remember who Pat was, was
> she the sister?

No, I don't think so. Someone in the pepper scene, IIRC, and I probably
don't.

-Robin