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BPFK Section: Grammatical Pro-sumti

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Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:20:16AM -0700, wikidiscuss@lojban.org wrote:
> Re: BPFK Section: Grammatical Pro-sumti {le ka ce'u broda} is not "the
> property of being somehting that can go in the first place of broda}
> but simply the property of being a broda, brodaness or so.

I am not aware of a difference between those statements.

-Robin



Well, roughly, the first is linguistically oriented, the second metaphysical. Propositional functions are closely allied with language, properties are meant to be more independent of language — what language seeks to represent as it were (and both are different from qualities-- for want of a better word — which are ways the world is or might be). This is all tentative and a result of too much reading in this subject of late. I have to say that no one hold that all these things exst — and they are all things accoring to their supporters — but no one has done a convincing job of reducing all of them (or even two of them) to one thing, so I am going with a maximum ontology for now. Lojaban, notice, clearly distinguishes between these two (or two somethings anyhow, whether this pair or another of the possibles in this mess I am not sure).