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BPFK Section: Logical Variables

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pc:
> I'm not sure that I understand the quantifiers here in the way you do, which
> seems to range them over plural packets rather than just over several things.

No, that's not what I'm doing.

> {pa da broda} says that one thing brodas, not that one plurality of
> unspecified size does.

Yes.

> I don't think that the whole other {ro} is accompanied
> by a whole other PA.

I don't think so either. But there are two distinct plural ro's
that reduce to the same thing for the singular variable case.
The two plural ro's correspond to "all brodas" and "any brodas".
The first is just another proportional quantifier, and the second
is the dual of {su'o}.

> The plurality of the reference comes out mainly in the
> case of {su'o da} where a plurality of any size may answer the call. Your
> apporach (as I understand it) is singularist, making a plurality somehow a
> single thing, in the example a triad of some sort.

Nope.

> I agree that the {naku su'o naku} universal is "any," since "any" (and "all")
> are not importing and neither is nsn.

Importingness is a secondary issue here. The proportional "all" has two
versions, importing and not importing. And then there's the dual of su'o
(which is also not importing, but that's not its important feature).

> But it is not the normal "all"
> ("every" importing) of McKay's system.

McKay's system has two (or three) "all"s.

> We have the distinction (not the only
> one perhaps but an identifying one) in the old {ma'u ro} (importing) and
> {ni'u ro} (not importing). If we were doing McKay, we would take {ma'u ro}
> as the norm and so unmarked and then mark {ni'u ro} when it is needed.

Actually McKay marks the importing rather than the not importing, but
that's not that relevant. In addition to the importing and not importing
proportional ro's, we would need another one, the dual of su'o, "any".

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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