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tags as connectives

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>
> Re:tags as connectives
>
> The issue of the order of sentences around connectives — relative to the
> order around the "corresponding selbri" (that there always is one is suspect
> in many cases) is as old as Loglan.

How can there not be one? We have two things that get connected,
so we can always define a new selbri 'brodrtaga' such that it represents
that relationship between the two things that the tag connects, i.e.
such that {lo nu bu'a cu brodrtaga lo nu bu'e} means {bu'a i <tag> bo bu'e}.

> The order for the causal/inferential
> connectives changed several times in printed Loglan text, mainly as the
> translation of the connectives moved between "because" (which has a certain
> naturalness from "cause") and "hence/therefore/thus" which seemed to fit the
> order better.
>
> The argument always brought came back to the order of the underlying
> predicate, though I don't remember what it was most recently in Loglan. Of
> course, the predicates do not keep the corresponding orders completely, so
> that aargument may collapse a bit — and some are personal rather than
> formal, I seem to recall.

The problem is not so much the underlying predicate, that is just
a convenient way to explain it. The problem is that:

{X i ba bo Y} corresponds to {ba gi Y gi X}

whereas

{X i ri'a bo Y} corresponds to {ri'a gi X gi Y}

So even if we don't mention any underlying predicates, there
is a discrepancy.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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