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pc:
> Did the person saying {mi dunda
> fi la djan} when he gave something other than the
> box to John in a context where the box is the
> expected donation say something false.

Yes. I remind you of the context: Person A asks
{do punji le tanxe ma} "where did you put the box?"
Person B responds {mi dunda fi la djan}, i.e.
"I gave (it) to John".

> I would
> say "No," provided he did give something; it
> might not even be irrelevant or misleading.

In this case, it would be.

> John
> is an Al Qaida agent doing business as a
> solicitor for an Islamic charity. The government
> maintains that the charity is a front and also
> knows that someone gave John a box of C4. So I
> get quizzed and, because I know that giving to
> the "charity" is enough and wanting to get on
> with it I say that I gave to John, thinking that
> they are on the usual charity dragnet, not
> knowing about the box.

Totally different context.

> "there's no need to
> mention anything" seems to be the most natural
> meaning for {zo'e} that covers both.

There is no need to mention it because we are both
perfectly clear on what we are discussing. The
relationship {dunda} is claimed to hold among three
things: myself, the box and John.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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