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BPFK Section: Inexact Numbers

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pc:
> --- Jorge Llambías wrote:
> > This is what
> > CLL says:
> >

> >

> > Each of these numbers, plus ro, may be
> > prefixed with pi (the decimal
> > point) in order to make a fractional form which
> > represents part of a whole
> > rather than some elements of a totality.
> > piro therefore means ''the whole
> > of'':
> >
> >
> > 8.8) mi citka piro lei nanba
> > I eat the-whole-of the-mass-of bread
> >
> > Similarly, piso'a means ''almost the whole
> > of''; and so on down to
> > piso'u, a tiny part of. These numbers
> > are particularly appropriate with
> > masses, which are usually measured rather than
> > counted, as Example 8.8 shows.

> >

>
> I know that CLL says that {piPA lo broda} is 0.PA
> of one broda.

Can you indicate where? All I could find about fractional
quantifiers in CLL is what I quoted above.

> It is also at variance
> with what was (I thought) agreed on here earlier
> (much earlier, to be sure) ion response to the
> rather thorough muddle about quantified sumti in
> CLL, that fractionals gave fractions of the total
> size, not fractions of the members: external PA
> was to understood, then, as PA/ro.

I understand external PA as {PA fi'u ro}, i.e. PA out
of all the referents of the sumti.

> I expect that we want to talk about half a group
> of (or several) broda far more often than about
> half a broda.

I expect so too. Both are easy to do with the proposed
system.

> The standard way to say half a
> broda otherwise is not much more complex that
> {pimu lo broda}, while, lacking this form, saying
> "half of the broda" seems rather harder --
> certainly more so that its usefulnness suggests.

{fi'u re lo broda}

This form also has the advantage that "a third of the broda"
is {fi'u ci lo broda} rather than the somewhat stranger
{pira'eci lo broda}, not to mention {fi'u ze} for
"a seventh" instead of {pira'epavorebimuze}.

And there's also {muno ce'i lo broda}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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