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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> Will respond to rest later.
>
> On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 09:40:55AM -0600, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:
>> I also wonder whether removing .y'y. would be worthwhile--as
>> mentioned, it's far from the only word ending with y, and as far
>> as I know (can someone correct me on this?) y is also valid at the
>> begining of cmene and type-4 fu'ivla (hmmm, vlatai seems to think
>> it's not valid in fu'ivla, but is in cmene).
>
> Oh, dude, you *must* be joking. Can someone research this carefully
> and get back to us with chapter and verse? Pretty please?

..o'anai, turns out y isn't valid *anywhere* in a fu'ivla. (Chapter 4, section
7, number 4 in the first list)

4) cannot contain ``y'', although they may contain syllabic pronunciations of
Lojban consonants;

Chapter 4, section 9, says of cmene

2)
They may contain the letter y as a normal, non-hyphenating vowel. They are
the only kind of Lojban word that may contain the two diphthongs ``iy'' and
``uy''.

Which I would interpret to mean (unless someone can find contradiction) that,
for instance, {.ylkec.} is a valid cmene.
--
Adam Lopresto
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