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BPFK Super-Section: BAI sumtcita

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> On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:27:51PM +0100, Arnt Richard Johansen
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 wikidiscuss@lojban.org wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to work on coming up with a general template for
> > > non-special case BAI / SE BAI and BAI NAI. I think there are
> > > just those two cases.
> >
> > I am of the reductionist opinion that dictionary entries for
> > sequences of multiple words, such as as SE BAI, BAI NAI, and SE
> > BAI NAI (which you have in BPFK Section: Causation sumtcita
> > should be avoided. The meaning of *any* word sequence should be
> > deduceable from either the CLL, or the definitions of one of the
> > cmavo.
>
> In theory, but in practice explaining what {te pu'e} or {te ta'i}
> means is rather difficult, and doing so is easier if it's a seperate
> entry.

It seems we are dealing with two different issues:

(1) Should the meaning of SE BAI NAI be deduceable from the
meanings of its components, or could it have a fixed idiomatic
meaning that is only more or less related to the meanings of
the components?

(2) Should compounds such as SE BAI NAI be listed as separate
entries?

The two issues are independent. We could have strictly deduceable
meanings listed under the same BAI entry or under a separate entry,
and we could have idiomatic meanings listed under the same BAI
entry or under a separate entry.

I think we should have deduceable meanings as much as possible.
Whether or not they are listed as separate entries is up to
the dictionary editor.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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