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Very interesting though hardly evidence that most
people or even most westerners or youths lack
"aw." In fact, it seems that most have it, even
if only paralinguistically. Oddly — from the
point of view of the claims given — the only
place where I have heard the collapse regularly
is in the extreme Northeast, Maine, where for
example, "John" (general American "jahn") is
"jawn" or even "jawuhn" (the latter to give
length to a normally short vowel, I suspect). Of
course, here the collapse goes the opposite way
from the American norm, presumably influenced by
the Canadian pattern — which does seem to be
pretty general in Ontario and the Maritimes
(though not in BC and the flyover provinces).
None of this seems to me a good case for ignoring
"aw" as a preferred pronunciation for Lojban {o},
which was the point here.



> John E Clifford scripsit:
> > I know that Lojbab has this feature but I
> can't
> > find anyone else with it, including a fairly
> > large array of youngsters — from 3 up — and
> > Arizonians of all ages, ditto New Mexicans,
> > Californians and Oregonians. What is the
> source
> > of your claim?
>
> It's a well-known fact.
> http://cla.calpoly.edu/~jrubba/phon/ipafaq.html
> is one source picked at random;
>
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000836.html
> is another.
>
> —
> Ambassador Trentino: I've said enough. I'm a
> man of few words.
> Rufus T. Firefly: I'm a man of one word: scram!
> --Duck Soup John
> Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
>
>
>