Wiki page How to use xorlo changed
wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:38:17 -0800,
> webmaster@lojban.org
> <webmaster@lojban.org> wrote:
> > Something that needs to be noted in general:
> we, the BPFK, made a consensus decision that we
> do not make rulings on ontological or
> metaphysical issues; that is, we will not tell
> you whether phrase X has meaning or validity.
> ...
> > * lo with an outer quantifier, which is
> exactly the same thing as just sticking a
> number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" ==
> "mu bakni" == "five cows), works pretty much as
> before: "five things that really are cows".
>
> Was the "really are" intended?
In one part of the proposal, "really are" is all
that separates {lo} from {le}, in another this is
not the case, though not to the extent it is in
the unfolding of the proposal (after it has been
acdcepted).
> From what I understand, "lo" is no longer makes
> a statement that a {lo
> broda} "really is" a broda (or "really does"
> broda)... so wouldn't {mu
> lo bakni} be closer to "five things that are
> cows", without the
> "really"?
How can something be a cow and not really be a
cow. The new expplanation of the proposal is
that it is five things that are related to cows,
not necessarily cows at all, let alone really
ones.
But partt of the proposal does als say that they
are really cows.