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> AHAH. {mu lo bakni} is not a reference (as in
> older Lojban) to a bunch of five cows drawn from
> the bunch referred to by {lo bakni} but something
> less somehow — it tells howmany there are and
> what they do but without referring to them.

That's right, but that is not a change. Quantifiers
in logic are bridi operators, they don't refer, and
quantifiers in Lojban have always been the usual
quantifiers of logic.

PA da zo'u da broda

says: the sentence "x broda" is satisfied by exactly PA things.
It makes no reference to the things that satisfy the sentence,
it only says exactly how many they are.

> How
> should the second reference to (well, the first
> *reference* but the second indication of)these
> five cows be expressed in full form?

With {lo} in front you have a reference.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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