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BPFK Section: Numeric selbri

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Since the ME + sumti are always going to evaluate to a number (though perhaps not very definitely), I don't see the need for the second version.

Jorge Llambías <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:

pc:
> Boy, are these definitions in English (and only sllightly less so in Lojban)
> opaque. Why not just say "is *number* in number," "is the *number*th member
> of X2 according to ordering X3" and so on?

Good point, thank you. The reason for the somewhat opaque definitions is
that I want them to apply not just to the {number MOI} construct but also
to the {ME sumti MOI} one. But I can give both the restricted definition
for numbers as well as the general one for any sumti.

> While you are dropping (on another thread) superfluous places, the
> probbability place in {pacna} is a natural to go, since it has no place in a
> concept that can reasonably be correlated with "hope."

Yes, I always thought that place of {pacna} was funny for the "hope" gloss.
In Spanish, "esperar" means both "to hope" and "to expect" (it also
means "to wait" but that's not relevant here) so I suppose someone thought
that {pacna} in Lojban could also cover both. But if so, they should have
used "expect" as the keyword. A place for an expectation value is useful
to have, but I agree that mixing it with hope/wish/desire just doesn't
make any sense. And I don't see why {pacna} has to encroach like
that into {djica} territory either.

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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