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> How do I get assurance? I can't use a pronoun
> since it only works if the reference is the same,
> but I have no reference yet.

How do you ever get assurance that your first reference to
something gets what you want?

If you say {mu bakni cu blabi} and then you want to refer to
the five cows that are white, you can use {lo mu bakni poi blabi}.
Or {lo mu bakni poi go'i} if the first bridi was longer and you
don't want to repeat it. In other words, to refer to the things
that satisfy a certain sentence you use "the things that satisfy
such sentence".

> I don't quite understand what
> "bridi operator" means here that keeps it from
> making referring expressions.

By bridi operator I meant an operator that takes
a bridi as an argument and returns a bridi. A function
from bridi to bridi.

> After all, the
> descriptor (even if you don't think it is a
> quantifer) is a bridi operator in the normal
> sense of the phrase and you hold it creates a
> referring expression.

A gadri is a function from bridi to sumti, yes.

> Is it the difference
> between a (to put this in Lojban terms)
> bridi-forming operator and a sumti-forming
> operator?

Right.

> If that is the case, then I will accept
> that it is the whole bridi which makes the
> reference, not just the term (though I don't
> really believe this).

I don't have a problem with that. But then you
need to turn that bridi into a sumti in order to
use it as a reference, and that's what gadri do.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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