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Wiki page BPFK Section: Quotations as of 11 Feb 2005 changed

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On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 03:26:01PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Sunday 13 February 2005 15:00, Jorge "Llamb?as" wrote:
> > --- Philip Newton wrote:
> > > > ;zoi (ZOI): Non-Lojban quotation. Creates a delimited
> > > > non-Lojban quotation. The result treated as single Lojban
> > > > word. "zoi" uses the following word as a delimiting word and
> > > > quotes all further text until the same word is repeated.
> > >
> > > Does "word" need to be defined for this purpose? For example,
> > > would {zoi ganai this work? I expect not. ganai}
> > >
> > > Or does it refer to "word" which is defined elsewhere?
> >
> > A word here is any member of a selmaho (including selmaho BRIVLA
> > and CMENE).
>
> What about {zoi kau'i ka'ia ki'i kau'i}?

kau'i is a member of the psuedo-selmaho "CMAVO", and works with no
trouble.

> > cmavo written together do not form a single word. {ganai} is
> > always two words.
> >
> > The only exception that does count as one word is {y bu}, even
> > when written separately.
>
> What does {zoi ybu abu boi denpa bu ybu} parse as?

One big zoi quote.

> > > (More generally, what if the delimiting "word" occurs within
> > > the text but not with a pause in front?
> >
> > For example {zoi ci mi klama reci zarci ci}? In this case, PEG
> > _will_ see the ci in reci as a separate word. (Whether or not
> > this is what we want is debatable.)
>
> The parser shouldn't be lexing text inside a zoi-quote; it should
> only be looking for the delimiter.

That's not possible without lexing it.

> If it sees {ci} as a separate word in {reci}, what does it do with
> {zoi ci mi qlawa reci zarci ci}?

Umm, the same thing: zoi (ci mi qlawa reci) zarci *error*.

> > > What about {zoi zar mi klama le zarci le briju zar}? (where
> > > there is a pause but the word is longer than the delimiting
> > > word)
> >
> > Again, zar in zarci cannot be a word, so it is not seen by the
> > parser as a word.
>
> What about {zoi cire cilce carce jarco cu jarco reci cilce carce}?

The quote ends at the ci in reci.

You know, if you had so much to say about this section, it would
have been nice if you had said it sometime in the past *month* when
the section was open.

-Robin

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