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BPFK Section: Epistemology sumtcita

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> > > > > > mi tcidu lo pemci te cu'u le lanzu be
> mi "I read the poem
> > > > > > for my family."
> > > > te cu'u is pretty clearly "with
> audience", IMO. The ma'oste
> > > > says "as told to", which is quite
> different from what you have.
> > >
> > > "I read the poem, as told to my family"
> would work too. The point
> > > is that my family was told about my reading
> the poem, it was not
> > > the audience of the poem-reading.
> >
> > I disagree. It was an audience for some kind
> of expression; what
> > that expression is is totally unspecified,
> but as an "audience"
> > place is being added to tcidu, being an
> audience for the reading
> > seems the only sensible interpretation.
>
> I don't see the "only sensible interpretation"
> part. Why is my
> interpretation not sensible? If you say that
> {te cu'u} makes no
> clear connection with the main bridi, then the
> main bridi as
> a possible se cusku should be at least as
> likely as the x2
> of tcidu (the read material) as a possible se
> cusku.
>
> > I reject, absolutely, that the other places
> of cusku are somehow
> > imported, unfilled, just because {se cu'u} is
> used, and that those
> > other places, not the places of tcidu, affect
> the meaning of {se
> > cu'u}. {se cu'u} adds a place to the
> tcidu-based bridi.
>
> I'm not disputing any of that.
>
> {broda te cu'u ko'a} can be interpreted as
> saying something
> along the lines of {ko'a te cusku lo se du'u
> broda} (my interpretation)
> or as saying something along the lines of {lo
> nu broda cu nu ko'a
> te cusku} (your interpretation: "the event of
> my reading a story
> is an event of my family being said
> something.") Maybe it is left
> to context to decide which one is closer in
> each case. Or maybe
> it should be always mine, or maybe always like
> yours. I just want
> to be clear on what the prescription is.
>
The point, I gather, is that there ain't no
prescrition, that each case means what it means,
whether or not it comes from the associated
brivla by some familiar rule. BAI are like
tanrus in the way they use their predicates (or
better, lujvos, which may be even more remote).