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BPFK Section: Epistemology sumtcita

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> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:15:39 -0800 (PST), John
> E Clifford
> <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > --- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > mi'o casnu bau la lojban
> > > "We discuss in Lojban."
> > >
> > > lo nu mi'o casnu cu nu la lojban bangu
> > > "Our discussing is an event of lojban being
> the
> > > language used."
> > >
> > But it says "Our discussion is an event of
> Lojban
> > being a language (used by someone for some
> > communication)" It is hard to imagine — now
> --
> > any event which is not that, in some loose
> sense
> > at least.
>
> I don't see how a discussion in English for
> example could
> be an event of Lojban being used. I can only
> see it as an
> event of English being used.
>
The point is that nothing in {le nu mi'o casnu cu
nu la lojban bangu} requires that Lojban be used
in the discussion; indeed there is nothing there
about uses of Lojban beyond its potential to be
used, implicit in its being a language. And,
insofar as an event is an s-t block in which the
defining predication holds, every event now is
one in which Lojban is a language (for someone --
not necessarily us — to convey a message — not
necessary the one being discussed). You meant, I
think, {lo nu mi'o casnu cu nu mi'o pilno la
lojban lo bangu} or some such.