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Re: BPFK Section: Case sumtcita

posts: 1912

> Examples of si'u Usage
>
> mi bevri lo pipno si'u la .djan. .e la .frank.
> I carry the piano, helped by John and Frank.

I would have used {joi} instead of {.e} there.

I'm not sure, however, if that expands to
{ge mi bevri lo pipno si'u la djan gi
mi bevri lo pipno si'u la frank} or not.

> Examples of se fi'e Usage
>
> mi pilno le tadji se fi'e lo nanba
> I followed the instructions to make bread.

The English seems ambiguous between
{mi pilno le tadji lo nu zbasu lo nanba} and
{mi pilno le tadji be lo nu zbasu lo nanba}.

I think {finti} would be used for bread only in very
special cases, and if you really finti bread you probably
wouldn't be following instructions.

> mi jmina lo ladru lo maxri lo pesxu te fi'o lo nanba
> I add milk to wheat to make a paste, with the goal of bread.

s/fi'o/fi'e
s/the whole example/something else

> mi tcidu lo lisri ve fi'e lo ranmi
> I write a story using mythological elements.

s/tcidu/finti

Hmm... that leaves you without an example.

> Examples of ra'i Usage
>
> mi ciska lo lisri ra'i lo nu mi pensi lo ranmi
> I write a story, based on my thinking about myths.

s/ciska/finti

> Examples of se ra'i Usage
>
> mi vitke la .torontos. be se ra'i la .maik.maiyrs.
> I visit Toronto, which Mike Myers is from.

I approve, but it requires a change of grammar.

> Examples of xe ka'a Usage
>
> mi vitke la .kalifornias. xe ka'a lo trene
> I visit California by train.

Perhaps "on a train", to indicate that the whole/most
of the visit occurs while on the train.

> Examples of pu'a Usage
>
> mi .e la .djen. casnu pu'a le cisma po ri
> Jen and I discussed, and her smile was pleasant.

s/.e/joi

> Examples of se be'i Usage
>
> mi pilno ti se be'i lo se mrilu
> I use this to send mail.

That would be {mi pilno ti lo nu benji lo se mrilu}.

> Examples of te be'i Usage
>
> mi pilno ti te be'i la .kim.
> I use this to send to Kim.

That would be {mi pilno ti lo nu benji fi la kim}.

> Examples of ve be'i Usage
>
> mi pilno ti ve be'i la .kim.
> I use this to receive from Kim.

{mi pilno ti lo nu benji fo la kim}.

> Examples of xe be'i Usage
>
> mi .e la .djan. casnu xe be'i lo skami
> John and I talk with transmission medium computer(s).

s/.e/joi (presumably)

> Examples of te pi'o Usage
>
> mi katna lo mudri te pi'o lo nu finti lo larcu dacti
> I cut wood (using a tool unspecified) for the purpose of creating an object of art.

In theory at least, the x1 of katna would be a tool not a person,
so {gau mi katna lo mudri ...}.

> Examples of se gau Usage
>
> mi pilno lo dakfu se gau lo nu mi katna le degji be fi mi
> I use a knife, with the result that I cut my finger.

That looks like an example of {ja'e}, also same comment
as above about {katna}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes