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BPFK Section: Tense sumtcita

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Jorge Llambas wrote:

>> Examples of tu'i Usage
>> mi surla tu'i le le ckana be fi mi
>> I am relaxing on my bed.
>
> s/le le/le

> {stuzi} is for permanent locations. I would just use {bu'u} here.
> If the Lojban is meant to suggest that my bed is my
> permanent location, the English does not capture that.

Okay. I have removed the example.

>> mi nelci la lojbo ke plibu taxfu tu'i zoi gy. CafePress gy.
>> I like the Lojban underpants at Cafepress.
>
> {la}?
> In any case, if {tu'i} makes sense here, it should
> supposedly be {pe tu'i}, because it's the site of
> the underpants, not of the liking, isn't it?

Okay. {pe} added.

>> .i se ki'u bo mi tcidu tu'i lo na jibni be le skami
>> Therefore, I read somewhere away from the computer.
>
> Again, I would use {bu'u}, unless for some reason we are
> talking of a permanent reading location.

Removed.

>
>> Examples of ti'u Usage
>>
>> ba'a le sorprekarce cu klama ti'u li pi'e 10
>> I expect the bus to arrive at ten past the hour.
>
> Why "arrive"? That would be {tolcliva}.
> With {klama} it means the bus will be already on its way
> at 10 past.

Because at 10 past it passes by where I am.

>> Examples of koi Usage
>> No non-metalinguistic examples found. Constructed examples follow:
>> ko cintygau koi le kruvi
>> Paint inside the lines.
>
> Does that require the painter to be located inside the lines too?

I think it doesn't.

> {cintygau} is strange for "to paint" because it doesn't seem
> to have a place for the painted object.

Do you have another suggestion for "paint" (agentive)? It doesn't appear
in Jbovlaste. Or possibly a wholly new example for {koi}?

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