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On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:30:24AM -0800, wikidiscuss@lojban.org
wrote:
> Re: BPFK Section: Case sumtcita
> > Examples of si'u Usage
> >
> > mi bevri lo pipno si'u la .djan. .e la .frank. I carry the
> > piano, helped by John and Frank.
>
> I would have used {joi} instead of {.e} there.

Agreed.

> I'm not sure, however, if that expands to {ge mi bevri lo pipno
> si'u la djan gi mi bevri lo pipno si'u la frank} or not.

That's my belief.

> > Examples of se fi'e Usage
> >
> > mi pilno le tadji se fi'e lo nanba
> > I followed the instructions to make bread.
>
> The English seems ambiguous between
> {mi pilno le tadji lo nu zbasu lo nanba} and
> {mi pilno le tadji be lo nu zbasu lo nanba}.
>
> I think {finti} would be used for bread only in very special
> cases, and if you really finti bread you probably wouldn't be
> following instructions.

Point. Suggestions?

> > mi jmina lo ladru lo maxri lo pesxu te fi'o lo nanba
> > I add milk to wheat to make a paste, with the goal of bread.
>
> s/fi'o/fi'e
> s/the whole example/something else

Suggestions?

> > mi tcidu lo lisri ve fi'e lo ranmi
> > I write a story using mythological elements.
>
> s/tcidu/finti
>
> Hmm... that leaves you without an example.

Yep. As may be obvious, I had a hard time with some of these.

> > Examples of se ra'i Usage
> >
> > mi vitke la .torontos. be se ra'i la .maik.maiyrs.
> > I visit Toronto, which Mike Myers is from.
>
> I approve, but it requires a change of grammar.

I don't. s/be/pe/

> > Examples of se be'i Usage
> >
> > mi pilno ti se be'i lo se mrilu
> > I use this to send mail.
>
> That would be {mi pilno ti lo nu benji lo se mrilu}.

Yes, it would. You have a better example?

> > Examples of te be'i Usage
> >
> > mi pilno ti te be'i la .kim.
> > I use this to send to Kim.
>
> That would be {mi pilno ti lo nu benji fi la kim}.

See above.

> > Examples of ve be'i Usage
> >
> > mi pilno ti ve be'i la .kim.
> > I use this to receive from Kim.
>
> {mi pilno ti lo nu benji fo la kim}.

See above.

-Robin