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BPFK Section: Causation sumtcita

wikidiscuss@lojban.org scripsit:

> As for the section on bai itself, what this word should mean is all
> but obvious. If we follow the system in which all BAI are based upon
> the corresponding brivla, we get that the place is filled by a force
> which compels something. But people have been used "bai" for all kinds
> of stuff, including people and objects. This is also the case for the
> one example (".i za'a bai lo skami mi nalviska le se cinri nu casnu").
>
> So, how do we solve this?
>
> 1) Disconnect this one BAI cmavo from bapli, its corresponding brivla.
> 2) Choose another brivla to associate it with
> 3) Weasel out of the constraints imposed by "bapli" (saying that the
> "x1 force (ka)" means something else than it seems to mean)
> 4) Widen the definition of bapli to fit usage
> 5) Something else entirely?

Explicitly allow sumti-raising in BAIs, relative to the source gismu.

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