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BPFK Section: gadri


pc:
> A> I confess that I have trouble in casual reading to remember what exactly
> is the difference between a group of seven broda and a heptad of broda. It
> is the external quantifier that makes the difference, whether it is partitive
> or repetitive: is {ci lo ze broda} three out of the one group of seven broda
> or three broda heptads. I am also not sure which is the more useful. Are
> there stats on this?

I don't know if there are stats. To me the obvious way to see
which is more useful is to consider the most common group
used: singletons. Quantifying over members of a singleton
is a waste of time. Quantifying over instances of a singleton
is the most common use of quantifiers.

> But it is clear that we can get broda heptads with the
> present system (or this minor modification); how do we get partititves from
> the heptad system(I am sure there is a straightforward way of doing it, I
> just don't see it off hand).

We can get both relatively easily:

PA mupli be lo ze broda
PA instances of lo ze broda

PA cmima be lo ze broda
PA members of lo ze broda

(In the case of {le} the situation is reversed. We normally have
a single instance in mind (be it of an individual or group), so
quantifying over instances is a waste of time, the useful quantification
in this case is over members when we have a specific group in mind.)

> B> This remarks makes it seem that the proposed {lo} is {lo3}, whereas
> others more or less force {lo2}. Maybe the notion is not quite as simple as
> rabspir thinks.

If lo2 does not act like a constant term, then the proposed lo
is not lo2.

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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