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Proposed Definition of ba'a

ba'a (UI2)
I anticipate. This word is an

attitudinal, that is, it
directly expresses an emotion on the part of the
speaker. This word is part of a
scale; the base attitudinal word indicates that
the speaker is feeling I expect,
the base word followed by cu'i indicates that the
speaker is feeling I
experience, and the base word followed by nai
indicates that the speaker is feeling I
remember.(cf. bavykri, lifri, morji)

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Examples of ba'a Usage

Examples of ba'a Usage

ba'a seems to be used in a mostly
non-temporal sense. That is, it is
rarely used to express "I expect that X will
happen", but rather something like
"I presume that X would be the case".

ba'anai does seem to be unambiguously used to
refer to things in the past.

Temporal usages

ba'a do bazu djuno fi ro djedi
I expect that in the far future, you will know
every day.

.ua .i ba'anai
Oh yeah, I remember now.

Non-temporal usages

.i y xu ro pipybanfi cu respa - ''ba'a na
mabru''
Are frogs reptiles? I don't expect them to be
mammals.

''.i lenu mi joi la tal. puzi casnu ti cu mukti
lenu mi te preti fo do .i ba'a
loi mlatu loi gerku cu zmadu leka kukte .i xu
tugni''
Me and Tal's recent discussion prompted me to ask
you. I expect cats to taste
better than dogs. Do you agree?

ma se xabju do vi la astn - ''ba'a vi la
ubuty. xabju''
Where near Austin do you live? Probably near UT.

ba'a do xabju le jecrsautkarolaina
You probably live in South Carolina.

I tentatively rule that usage is in error, and
that the temporal interpretation
should remain/become the official
interpretation.>>

Amen and hallelujah!

<<!! Proposed Definition of ba'a cu'i

ba'a cu'i (UI*2)
I experience. This word

is an attitudinal, that is, it
directly expresses an emotion on the part of the
speaker. This word is part of
a scale; the base attitudinal word indicates that
the speaker is feeling I
expect, the base word followed by cu'i indicates
that the speaker is feeling I
experience, and the base word followed by nai
indicates that the speaker is feeling
I remember.

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Examples of ba'a cu'i Usage>>


How is this differentiated from the alter "I
experience" that parallels "I hear" (and "I
see"?)?

Proposed Definition of ba'a nai

ba'a nai (UI*2)
I remember. This word is

an attitudinal, that is, it
directly expresses an emotion on the part of the
speaker. This word is part of a
scale; the base attitudinal word indicates that
the speaker is feeling I
expect, the base word followed by cu'i indicates
that the speaker is feeling I
experience, and the base word followed by nai
indicates that the speaker is feeling I
remember.>>

These are the classic psychological roots of
tense and should probably be kept that way.

<<!! Proposed Definition of ja'o

ja'o (UI2)
I conclude. This word is an

attitudinal, that is, it directly
expresses an emotion on the part of the speaker.
evidential: I conclude(cf.
selni'i, ni'ikri)>>

Note, no premises need to be mentioned

<<!! Proposed Definition of ju'a

ju'a (UI2)
I state. This word is an

attitudinal, that is, it directly
expresses an emotion on the part of the speaker.
This word is part of a scale;
the base attitudinal word indicates that the
speaker is feeling evidential: I
state, and the base word followed by nai
indicates that the speaker is feeling >>

Feeling what? The next bit does not seem to
finish this section:

<<(default) elliptical/non. -specific basis(cf.
xusra)>>
<<!! Proposed Definition of ru'a

ru'a (UI2)
I postulate. This word is an

attitudinal, that is, it
directly expresses an emotion on the part of the
speaker. evidential: I postulate(cf.
sruma)>>

Needs to say something about the logical role
that postulation (and assumption?) play in
converastion. As it stands it sounds like it
only applies in say science.

<<!! Proposed Definition of su'a

su'a (UI2)
I generalize. This word is an

attitudinal, that is, it
directly expresses an emotion on the part of the
speaker. This word is part of a
scale; the base attitudinal word indicates that
the speaker is feeling I
generalize, the base word followed by cu'i
indicates that the speaker is feeling I
particularize; discursive: abstractly, and the
base word followed by nai indicates
that the speaker is feeling concretely.(cf.
sucta, sucni'i)

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Examples of su'a Usage

Proposed Definition of su'a nai

su'a nai (UI*2)
I particularize. This word

is an attitudinal, that is,
it directly expresses an emotion on the part of
the speaker. This word is part
of a scale; the base attitudinal word indicates
that the speaker is feeling I
generalize, the base word followed by cu'i
indicates that the speaker is feeling
I particularize; discursive: abstractly, and the
base word followed by nai
indicates that the speaker is feeling
concretely.>>

Thses might serve in lieu of the missing modals
for "generalization" and "particularization" I
wonder if there is also a middle ground.

<<;za'a (UI2): I observe. This word is an
attitudinal, that is, it directly
expresses an emotion on the part of the speaker.
evidential: I observe(cf.
zgana, lanli)

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How contrast with the earlier {ba'anai}?
Presumably the difference is between the notion
of how the information was available to one and
how one came to know it (even though it ewas in
the past).

The word "emotion" (even "attitude") just makes
no sense throughout this section (and I am not
sure any one word works throughout. I think you
all may have to face the fact that there is not
boiler plate for these items and actually
consider what each of them means.