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BPFK Section: Grammatical Pro-sumti

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Well, what we have is not really a property, for all we say it, but a relation. And both Mimi and Siamese cats (or the breed) are both in that relation. But they are in it in different ways, as first argument and as second. Now from this there is a derivate property for each, but it is a different one for each: "is a cat of Siamese breed" and "is a breed of which Mimi is a cat." I was being a little (too) shorthandy to go directly to the issue whether every {ka} expression contained a {ce'u}.

Jorge Llambías <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
pc
> {le ka la mimis mlatu la si,amis} is a perfectly good property abstraction,
> naming the unique property Mimi has as being a Siamese cat.

Which is also the same unique property that Siamese has?

Can we say:

la mimis .e la si,amis cu ckaji le ka la mimis mlatu la si,amis
Both Mimi and Siamese have the property that Mimi is a Siamese cat.

That sounds odd to me, because I wouldn't say that Mimi and Siamese
have the same property. What I would say is that they are in a
relationship with each other:

la mimis ckini la si,amis lo ka ce'u mlatu ce'u
Mimi is related to Siamese by the ...is a cat of race... relationship.

Or that each has a different property:

la mimis cu ckaji lo ka ce'u mlatu la si,amis
Mimi has the property '...is a Siamese cat'.

la si,amis cu ckaji lo ka la mimis mlatu ce'u
Siamese has the property 'Mimi is a ... cat'.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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