WikiDiscuss

On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 11:30:54AM -0600, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:
> .o'anai, turns out y isn't valid *anywhere* in a fu'ivla.
> (Chapter 4, section 7, number 4 in the first list)

I wouldn't be ashamed of that mistake; I'm quite shocked by this
rule myself. I wonder where it comes from.

> Chapter 4, section 9, says of cmene
>
> 2) They may contain the letter y as a normal, non-hyphenating
> vowel. They are the only kind of Lojban word that may contain the
> two diphthongs ``iy and ``uy.

Those appear to be the only dipthongs that can be used with 'y'.

> Which I would interpret to mean (unless someone can find
> contradiction) that, for instance, {.ylkec.} is a valid cmene.

I see no reason to disagree. In which case, words starting with 'y'
aren't nearly as much a special case as I thought, so you all can
certainly ignore everything I said about .y'y.

So, my new question is:

1. Should we make .y. extra-grammatical everywhere except before
bu?

2. Should we make .y. extra-grammatical absolutely everywhere?

Both changes *DO* affect usage, as far as I know.

-Robin

--
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"
Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/