Wiki page How to use xorlo changed
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 04:03:32PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:38:17 -0800, webmaster@lojban.org
> <webmaster@lojban.org> wrote:
> > Something that needs to be noted in general: we, the BPFK, made
> > a consensus decision that we do not make rulings on
> > ontological or metaphysical issues; that is, we will not tell
> > you whether phrase X has meaning or validity.
> ...
> > * lo with an outer quantifier, which is exactly the same thing
> > as just sticking a number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" ==
> > "mu bakni" == "five cows), works pretty much as before: "five
> > things that really are cows".
>
> Was the "really are" intended?
>
> >From what I understand, "lo" is no longer makes a statement that
> >a {lo
> broda} "really is" a broda (or "really does" broda)... so wouldn't
> {mu lo bakni} be closer to "five things that are cows", without
> the "really"?
You're conflating {mu lo bakni} with {lo bakni}. The former has an
outer quantifier, the latter does not. The meanings are not the
same. It is assumed that you wouldn't talk about a number of cows
unless you actually wished to talk about cows.
> > * A fractional outer quantifier selects a portion of the
> > group. So "pa pi re loi xa bakni cu bevri lo pipno" means that
> > one half of some group of six cows (i.e. 3 cows) carried the
> > piano.
>
> Does {pa pi re} mean "one half", then?
No, that was a mistake. I meant "pi mu".
-Robin