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Robin's gadri Proposal

Re: Robin's gadri Proposal

Robin:
> The idea of a thing / Mr. Thing / intensionality. Note that this is
> not si'o; that relates to a whole relationship, not merely the x1
> thing.
> lo sa'e nai broda ~= le sa'e nai broda == su'o zo'e noi ke'a broda
> (which, obviously, I stole from xorlo)

Hmm... you didn't quite steal it though. In XS, when there is no
explicit quantifier, the term is unquantified. You seem to be
restoring implicit quantifiers here.

> Existence — je'u
> su'o da, or something like it: insisting that the thing really
> does exist.

I think {je'u} is better for veridicality rather than for existence.
{lo je'u pavyseljirna} would be something that really is a unicorn,
as opposed to something that I'm calling a unicorn but may be
something else. This is independent of the question of whether
or not unicorns exist.

> Imaginary, or otherwise fundamentally non-existant (with respect
> to the current semantic space).
> lo je'u nai broda == le je'u nai broda

{da'i}?

> Distributivity — .o'e, or mass cmavo.
> (See http://philosophy.syr.edu/mckay.html for an explication.
> This relates to what Lojban has historically called "masses".)
> The short version: Distributive just means that the elements are
> only considered as a whole in this predication. "The students
> surround the building" cannot be represented in standard predicate
> logic without distributives / plurals / masses, because it implies
> that each student surrounds the building.

Here you have the terminology backwards. "Each student surrounds
the building" is distributive. "The students surround the building" is
non-distributive.

mu'o mi'e xorxes