WikiDiscuss

Well, take take {de} in this context as obvious abbreviation for {le nu mo'u klama de} or some such thing — or use {fe'e za'o} if you must. The travel-goal exchange seems natural.
xorxes' suggestion — which I agree with in practice — seeems to be opposite of the case for the other aspects., taking out of the main event and putting it into the subordinate. Thus, the overshooting x and ending at y is {da klama di za'o de} which collapses to {da
za'o klama de} (with no easy place to say where da did actually get to). As noted, the case with {zo'e} is little help, but the regular forms suggest that subordinate event lies within the scope of the aspect of the main event; that is, the point actually reached, being in the overage, is what goes with {za'o}.
pc
Jorge Llambías <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:

---

> In the paradigmatic case of
> overshooting destination x (de) to actually end up in y (di) we have the two
> possibilities
>
> {da klama de za’o di} which vagues to {da za’o klama de} or
>
> {da klama di za’o de} which comes to the same vague form.

What I find confusing about this is that the sumti tagged by
za'o here is taken to be a location, whereas in general I would
expect it to be a time or an event. Perhaps the example would
work better with {fe'e za'o}, but I don't know.

In general, I would use the sumti tagged by za'o to indicate
the point of natural completion of the event. So {za'o broda}
could be expressed as {broda za'o lo nu mo'u broda}, "it is
still brodaing beyond the completion of brodaing". It is of
course pointless to repeat the main selbri like that, but the
point of completion can also be indicated by any other event
that somehow points to it. So for example

ko'a ko'e bajra javni za'o lo nu pagre le fanmo linji
"They kept on racing (run competing) beyond the crossing
of the finish line"

{lo nu pagre le fanmo linji} would normally indicate the
natural end of the event, but the bajra javni goes on beyond
that point.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

__
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html