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Still working on the strange use of "refer" that
seems to play some role here, is the following
reasnably correct:

If I say {mu lo bakni} twice, the sentences
involved might be made true by two (at least
partially) different bunches of cows. In neither
case are the cows referred to.

If I want to be sure that it is the same bunch of
cows the second time, I should use {lo mu lo
bakni} which assures that the reference in the
second case is to the cows that made the first
case true (but which were not there referred to).

If I use {lo mu lo bakni} in the first case I not
only claim that there are exactly five cows that
make the sentence involved true but I also refer
to them.

I am still unclear about why {mu lo bakni} does
not refer to the the cows. I am not even clear
why {Q da} doesn't rfer to what makes the
sentence true, labeit without giving a lot of
information about them — but that is not
required for reference. I suppose this is just
definitional at some level, but it seems to be
making a difference and to be somehow involved a
justification for some of the innovations that
you are foisting on Lojban.