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Wiki page BPFK Section: Quotations as of 11 Feb 2005 changed

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> > ;zoi (ZOI): Non-Lojban quotation. Creates a delimited
> > non-Lojban quotation. The result treated as single Lojban word.
> > "zoi" uses the following word as a delimiting word and quotes
> > all further text until the same word is repeated.
>
> Does "word" need to be defined for this purpose? For example, would
> {zoi ganai this work? I expect not. ganai}
>
> Or does it refer to "word" which is defined elsewhere?

A word here is any member of a selmaho (including selmaho BRIVLA
and CMENE).

cmavo written together do not form a single word. {ganai} is
always two words.

The only exception that does count as one word is {y bu}, even when
written separately.

> > The delimiting word is separated from the quoted text by
> > pauses, and must not be found in the written text or
> > spoken phoneme stream.
>
> Is this true for {la'o} quotes as well? It's not mentioned:

Yes, the rules for {la'o} and for {zoi} are identical, because
the syntax only sees selmaho ZOI. The syntax generally only looks
at the selmaho, never at the members of the selmaho. The only
exception is precisely the delimiter words for ZOI, where the
word itself is considered.

> Also, how does {zoi ci mi klama lezarci le briju ci} parse? as "mi
> klama lezarci le briju"? Or as {"mi klama lezar" le briju ci}? Or as
> invalid text?

For the PEG parser, it's the first one. In this case there is no
reasonable alternative, because the ci in zarci can't be a separate
word without a pause, but there are more iffy cases such as:

> (More generally, what if the delimiting "word" occurs
> within the text but not with a pause in front?

For example {zoi ci mi klama reci zarci ci}? In this case, PEG
_will_ see the ci in reci as a separate word. (Whether or not this
is what we want is debatable.)

> What about {zoi zar mi klama le zarci le briju zar}? (where there is a
> pause but the word is longer than the delimiting word)

Again, zar in zarci cannot be a word, so it is not seen by the parser
as a word.

mu'o mi'e xorxes





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