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    Posted by stevo on Wed 09 of Nov, 2005 12:40 GMT posts: 381

    In a message dated 11/8/2005 5:53:10 PM Central Standard Time,
    jjllambias@gmail.com writes:


    > Some comments on the pronunciation of the second module:
    >
    > Item 13: li ci
    > Item 23: li paci
    >
    > In both cases, the "i" of {ci} doesn't sound like an "i" to me. I can
    > barely hear it.

    I heard the /S/ of "ci" as a Russian 'sh', which has the tongue further back
    on the hard palate. Of course, since the speaker is a native Russian...

    stevo

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    Posted by inego on Thu 10 of Nov, 2005 02:35 GMT posts: 17

    > I heard the /S/ of "ci" as a Russian 'sh', which has the tongue further back
    > on the hard palate. Of course, since the speaker is a native Russian...

    Actually, as I also speak Chinese, {ci} I pronounce is Chinese 是 (shi4).
    Moreover, some cmavo like {mo}, {ma}, pro-sumti {do}, {mi} etc I pronounce with Chinese rising (2nd) or descending (4th) tones.
    cmavo {li} is said in 3rd tone. While this in no case violates any lojban pronunciation rules, and can hardly be noticed by non-Chinese-speaking people, it greatly helps (in my opinion) to distinguish cmavo from other words in lojbanic text.

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