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On 11/30/05, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/30/05, John E Clifford
> > <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > --- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 11/29/05, John E Clifford
> > > > <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > 2. Neither kinds nor stages of
> > individuals
> > > > seems
> > > > > to me to be like the real line in the
> > > > relevant
> > > > > ways.
> > > >
> > > > It depends on what you take to be *the*
> > > > relevant ways, I suppose.
> > > > In the only way I claimed them to be alike
> > is
> > > > in their satisfying
> > > > all of the listed thesis except for the one
> > > > about breaking down
> > > > completely into individuals.
> > >
> > > Cases?
> >
> > Cases of what?
>
> Things we might really use that satisfy all the
> theses not tied with foundation.

Dogs, unicorns, events of running, theories, lies, all kinds of things.

> > > Well, {ru'i} doesn't seem to have anything to
> > do
> > > with the continuum; it merely means "without
> > > significant interruption" "whenever there is
> > an
> > > occasion" even.
> >
> > So you take time to be *linguistically*
> > discrete? Interesting.
>
> Well, I didn't say so; I just made a comment
> about {ru'i}, which seems to me to say nothing
> about the nature of time.

Oh, I agree. It only says something about how time
is dealt with linguistically, not about its nature.

> But, so far as I can
> tell, Lojban at least (but I think English too)
> treats time as discrete in most situations --
> other than certain kinds of scientific talk,
> perhaps.

So when you ask how long something took, you expect
some number of indivisible chunks as an answer?

> temci tem tei time x1 is the
> time-duration/interval/period/elapsed time from
> time/event x2 to time/event x3
>
> It comes in chunks.

I always thought x1 of temci was a continuous interval
rather than a (very large?) number of (very small?) chunks.

If you mean that the x1 is one chunk, then the system of
time chunks seems to satisfy all the theses not tied with
foundation.

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